Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:Text Grant wrote:AV was nerfed too much and vehicles are running rampant. No counter but other tanks. Paper, rock, scissors is NOT working. There is absolutely no reason to skill into swarms, AV grenades, and little reason to skill into forge guns.
they actually do their job which is to drive away the tanks. In mass they can be really dangerous as well. As stated by tons of tankers and this scout, no single player should be able to tank down a tank unless its another tank. Its armored support meant to make several people in a squad swap to av. One person "could" drive it away if they dont kill you in a reckless attempt to get another volley of swarms off. But your supposed to be using like 3 or 4 players in tandem.
10. Thou shalt not claim that because a premise is popular, therefore it must be true. (Bandwagon fallacy)
AV stands for anti-vehicle, not annoy vehicle. If one expects it to take three players to take a HAV, then for the sake of balance, it should take three players to operate an HAV, not just one. Otherwise an imbalance is promoted.
By the way, have you ever thought that many HAV pilots might favor their vehicles being an "I win!" button? And you agreeing implies that you sit in one of the secondary gunner seats and soak vehicle assist WPs.
Also, have you ever heard of the FGM-148 Javelin? If you say yes, then you only know it by name and not performance.
Not that it matters. They got their wish and HAVs are the gods of the battlefield... for now.
were you that redberry that was shooting at my python with 60% resists active in a std swarm suit? I only ask because this is the type of rage i would expect from him.
please don't bring in real world examples, it means ****-all when we are talking about tanks with shield generators.
Anti vehicle weapons do indeed have the most punch when it comes to light weapons dealing damage against vehicles. A single swarm launcher is enough to remove the threat from the field, add one more and it becomes a serious threat to the vehicle, three and that vehicle is in serious ****. Especially when all three can hop in an LAV and hunt said vehicle.
Swarms are anti vehicle, giving your squad/team the opportunity to move to a more defensible position or safe area, like forcing a tank/dropship away from your friendlies for mod cool down.
Since you seem to be talking about tanks may i remind you that this is anti vehicle, not anti tank. AV
can destroy cars and dropships and tanks, AT can pop tanks (like that thing you mentioned from RL) very efficiently, though it wouldn't be able to touch my dropship at all.
Heavy weapons are different, which is why the forge gun is a much more effective av weapon than a light weapon as it has a much higher alpha because....well....its a heavy weapon. These are effective anti vehicle weapons, i think you will agree shooting at a vehicle with any AR is pretty futile. However they are not
as effective as another vehicle, because lets face it, you are holding a weapon powered by your suit, and I'm in a python 5-6x its size.
Ivy Zalinto is speaking plain truth here, av is interesting because it now requires a little bit of coordination, skill, luck, timing, teamwork and thought to get the
kill. Which seems to be what some av players are so against. I wonder why that is....
Even though your job is mostly to deny the vehicle its job of killing your team/transporting mercs/drive by scanning etc.
the only reason why HAV's are the "gods of the battlefield" is because of a typo on a militia mod. Ground vehicles wont have this for long, in fact I'm sure this will be patched at down time today. If not more militia truck lols for me till its fixed.
You may want to revisit your own tactics, as i have seen some incredibly stupid av players trying to fight me with std gear in a complex fit python when i clearly have the advantage. If you cannot find your window of engagement then most vehicle pilots are better than you already, and you wont have cheap mechanics to hide behind, no you must actually be skillful now in your job.